Science and Falsehoods in the Modern Age Part III: The Other Turtle: Christ like discipleship for the modern age.

The other Turtle: Christ like discipleship for the modern age.Up until now I have been utilizing logic and science to discuss the issues; however, this fails to include people who approach the world from a Christian theological perspective. Thus, it seems imperative to see what bible and theology has to say on the matter of Trans rights.
I do not want to be a hypocrite
and engage in falsehoodism myself. So I want to be clear I am not theologian or
preacher. At best, I am an amateur dabbler in theology. I have had the
opportunity of studying LDS theology at BYU and Seventh Day Adventist theology
at Loma Linda University. Christianity has a long history of the uninitiated
providing amateur exegesis. Indeed, holding scripture as ultimate authority has
the side effect of providing authority to anyone capable of reading said
scripture.
So with that in mind, I would like to thank you for reading/caring about my little foray into scripture. Before I dive into it, I would like to let you in on a few my assumptions. Today I will be focusing solely on the teachings of Jesus. Anything spoken by other people – say the apostle Paul (a man who never met the living Jesus) - is suspect. My suspicion is based by the idea that religions are institutions built up around a great teacher – typically posthumously – and by their very nature these institutions and people will deviate from the original teachings, often in ways that serve the people/institution and their unconscious cultural biases. As such, the most pure source of information is the teachings of the founders themselves. I am aware that these rules cut out all the scriptures that condemn homosexuality. I consider this a consequence of my logic not the intent of it. Put frankly, I am arguing that passages of scripture speaking against homosexuality are the result of cultural bias and NOT the intent of Jesus’ teachings. I feel my logic is sound and I am standing by it.
I hate to disappoint the gentleman pictured above but Jesus never said that. There is not a recorded passage of scripture cannon or apocryphal in which Jesus leans over to Peter and says “You know who I really can’t stand? Those Gosh Darn Homo-sex-uals.” The way I read the Bible, Jesus was actually really into loving neighbors and love in general. There is actually an astounding dearth of statements from Jesus himself regarding queer people, the sanctity of gender, and/or sexual purity culture in general. The silence on this subject is astounding indeed damning. If queer people are the moral threat that we are made out to be, one would think that an all knowing God would have provided at least one warning about “them queers.” As far as I can tell, Jesus took more issue with barren fig trees and money changers than he did with Queer folk. Let’s consider what Jesus did actually teach.
When asked what the great commandment was Jesus declared “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Mathew, 22:37-40). If we are to take Jesus at his word, love is the central purpose of his teachings. Jesus wanted us to follow God out of love-not obligation or responsibility. Furthermore, Jesus hoped that we would love our neighbors. As we recall from the story of the Good Samaritan (Luke, 10) when Jesus says neighbor he more or less means any other human being. There are no qualifiers here. He did not say except them queers or those gosh darn libtards. Or you don’t have to love them if they teach things that contradict God’s laws. Nope, He said love everyone period end of story.
Some of my favorite narratives of Jesus’ life are his interactions with the religious elites of his time. Indeed, Jesus called the religious leaders in his community “whited sepulchers” (Mathew 23:27) and warned his followers to “beware of [their] leaven” (Mathew 16:6). Put in modern terms, Jesus felt like the religious establishment of his time were hypocrites who spread their filthy doctrine until it corrupted the whole community. I wonder what he would say about the religious establishment of our time?
Often Jesus’ interactions with these folks centered around “the law”, the strict set of rules established for Jewish behavior. On one occasion, a teacher accosted Jesus and his apostles for picking and eating corn on the Sabbath day. Jesus replied by using the scriptural example of David eating bread from the temple. He then makes the statement “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath” (Mark, 2:23-28). I believe what he is saying here is that “the law” is a tool intended to help “Man” rather than something that mankind must mold themselves into. So if we pull things together, we might consider Jesus saying that love supersedes “the law.” I think Jesus cared much more how we treated our fellow humans than how closely we followed theological dictates. If we can accept this supposition then I believe that Jesus would not advocate queer bashing of any kind. Jesus would be much more concerned about loving his queer neighbors than forcing them to follow “the law.”
There are very few instances of Jesus speaking specifically about sexual morality. Perhaps the clearest example to me is when he was confronted with “the woman taken in adultery” (John 8:2-11). While Jesus was teaching in the temple, the religious elites brought him a woman taken in adultery. As a trap they presented him with “the law” which dictated that she be stoned to death. This was it-Jesus’ big moment to make a definitive statement on sexual immorality to be recorded for all generations. What statement did he make? The first thing Jesus did is focus on the woman’s accusers. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” Rather than congratulating them on having found a sexual deviant he tells them to worry about themselves. This is a repetition of a theme Jesus has touched on elsewhere, “cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also” (Matthew, 23:26). I believe Jesus is doing more here than telling these folks to mind their own business. Rather I believe that Jesus is teaching all of us an important lesson about how to live our religion. Jesus is telling them they need to be more concerned about their own sins than their neighbor’s sins. He is admonishing them to “Be the change you want to see.” He is suggesting that true religion is a solitary path in which an individual focuses on perfecting themselves rather than perfecting all their neighbors. The way I read the Bible, Jesus is constantly fighting against the rigid law focused approach of his contemporaries and encouraging us to focus on ourselves while treating others with love and compassion.
Equally important/fascinating is the way Jesus deals with the woman herself. Again, this is the big moment for posterity. Jesus can show us all just what to do with sexually immoral people. Unlike modern Christians, he did not exile her so as to eliminate her bad example. He did not forbid children to speak of her or parents and teachers to mention her to children. He showed no concern that this woman’s lasciviousness would impact the community, rather he is tremendously lenient. He tells here “Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.” The only admonishment he had for her was “sin no more.” That is it - go about your business and do better. Taken together, Jesus’ reaction here both to the religious leaders and to the woman herself are clear. Mind your own business, walk your own Christian path, and let your neighbor walk theirs. Love and people are more important than rules! This is how that looks in action. This is what Jesus is teaching. In word and in deed.
There is one last area in which I feel it important to watch Jesus’ example: Politics. Below you will find one of my favorite Jesus stories which begins with a crafty religious leader asking
“Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no?”
Jesus answers:
But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's. And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's. And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marveled at his answer, and held their peace. (Luke 20:22-26)
For a long time I loved the way this demonstrated Jesus’ quick wit and unending ability to best his opponents at intellectual chess matches. However, looking deeper Jesus is saying many important things. He is saying if you use Caesar’s money you should pay Caesar’s taxes – play by the rules. Jesus is acknowledging the authority of worldly institutions. Jesus is saying he believes in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. This is not a small thing. To this day, many Jewish people reject Jesus’ claim to be the Messiah because he did not overthrow the Roman government. The expectation was that the Savior would enact a political uprising and establish God’s kingdom on earth Ruled by God’s law. Instead, Jesus said “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36). I find it profound that this is Jesus’ message to Pilate. Again, this is Jesus’ big opportunity to stick it to the man. This is the time for him to call forth Egyptian style plagues and overthrow the unwelcome foreign ruler. This is Jesus’ opportunity to sermonize on the corruption of the government and the wickedness of governments that fail to recognize “The Law.” Instead Jesus answers “My kingdom is not of this world” and subjects himself to an unjust execution.
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's” --- “My kingdom is not of this world.” Jesus himself is arguing for a separation of church and state here. He is acknowledging that his teachings are spiritual in nature and belong to “another world.” He is also acknowledging and subjecting himself to the authority of a godless foreign government. Jesus is speaking of different turtles’ different ways of knowing. According to this point of view, there is a spiritual/theological way of knowing and there is a scientific “worldly” way of knowing. Each way of knowing can co-exist with the other so long as they render unto one and other their due. Science should not speak towards theology and theology should not dictate the practice or application of science.
Taking all of this as whole, I am arguing that the solution for the current quandary is a Christ-like disciple in the modern age. A true Christian disciple is one who follows Jesus’ teachings and example in an effort to emulate the great teacher. Someone who recognizes that love is the central component of the teaching and that treating others with love is one of the primary dictates of discipleship. Inherent in this understanding is that loving people is more important than ensuring that people follow God’s rules. True disciples ought to be focused on perfecting their own personal walk with Christ while allowing others their own personal Journey. True disciples will understand that their theology speaks of a higher spiritual path and law and that their calling is to be “In the world and not of the world” (John, 17:16). Finally, Christian disciples render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and work to change the world by letting their light so shine (Matthew 5:16). Jesus did not change the world by imposing “the law” on folks through legal means. He did so through teaching and example. Disciples who seek to emulate him ought to do likewise.
From this perspective, the current attempt by the “Christian Right” to ban queer books, outlaw speaking of queer people in schools, and to write laws dictating the practice of medicine is not Christian at all. It’s a usurpation of religion in the name of political ends.
Tune in next time for the exciting conclusion to this series in which I try to tie up all of my lose ends and make a cogent argument for how Queers and Christians can and ought to co-exist peacefully.
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ReplyDeleteMarcy,
DeleteThank you so much for this series of thoughts you have shared! And I really appreciate you taking some time to look at things from a religious perspective and not just a scientific perspective. I like the points you have made. Jesus did say that love of God and love of neighbor (read as the other humans inhabiting this earth) are the greatest of commandments, and it can also be some of the hardest commandments to do. To "love thy enemy" who has abused you, forgive those who despitefully use you, and pray for them who wish to harm you, is not easy to do. Heck, having a civil conversation with someone who doesn't agree with your point of view seems to be a difficult thing nowadays. So, I appreciate the respect you have shown here to your Christian audience.
I cannot speak for everyone in that audience, only for myself. But I believe many others feel similarly. For me, the struggle is not so much loving the LGBTQ community members, as it is reconciling that love with other teachings of my religion. I believe that LGBTQ members need to have their safe places to come together and support each other. I believe they have much to contribute to the world and should not be oppressed and regulated to the fringes of society. I'm even okay with talking about non-traditional family structures in schools because it will give me an opportunity to discuss with my kids our beliefs and why we believe that way.
At the same time, as an LDS member, I have been taught the eternal significance of the heterosexual family unit and the binary genders. I can't just set these beliefs aside and pretend they don't exist, and I'm not ready to change my religion. I also believe in the consistency of God. (I will use the "He" pronoun for God because I am speaking from an LDS tradition, and that pronoun is consistent with that tradition.) He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So, He must have some way of reconciling love of LGBTQ folx with love of the binary genders and heterosexual family unit.
For a more specific example of what I am saying, I am not 100% comfortable with my young kids watching TV shows and movies that have strong homosexual/queer themes. I want them to have strong roots and deep understanding in my religious ideology before they start watching that kind of material. At the very same time, I really hope that our kids will feel comfortable bringing their queer friends into our house, and that those friends feel loved and welcomed there. These two thoughts strike me as contradictory and make me think of Orwellian doublethink.
Added to this struggle is the fact that no matter how many queer folx I love, no matter how many drag shows I go to, or Pride Parades I support, it does not change the fact that I belong to a religion that preaches that a queer lifestyle is a sin. And so, I am left to wonder how to properly love and support the queer community, or even just my queer associates, without leaving my religion. It feels like they are both mutually exclusive options here.
I want to trust in the consistency of God and believe that His plan makes it possible to love and support queers while remaining in a religion I believe is His. I just have not found that balance yet, and I’d argue that the leaders of my church have not found it either. This is a complicated situation that feels like the entire world is trying to figure out. Unfortunately, there seems to be a number of people who will not give us all the space and time we need to figure out living together civilly. And so, I am interested to read your next installment in this series to see what you suggest!
I had a couple other thoughts after posting my last comment. First, as I was listening to a talk by Sheri Dew, a woman who is a former leader of my church, she pointed out a very important principle. She reminded us all that, "the lord liberates and the devil enslaves." On that principle alone, LDS members, if not all of Christianity, should be fighting to liberate people from physical, mental, and emotional bondage. We should not be making laws that prohibit segments of our communities from existing or thriving, but we should make sure appropriate boundaries are established so that all parties can grow, learn, and be happy without impediment. We want to liberate, not enslave others to our beliefs.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I have been thinking of this long before this blog post, if Jesus were alive today, who would He be hanging out with and who would He make his apostles? If we look at his behavior in the Gospels, we see that he hung out with Matthew(an apostate tax collector who chose to serve Rome instead of be faithful to the Jewish religion), Simon the Zealot (who was trained to murder those who did not fit into the Zealot's definition of righteous or those who interfered with the workings of God), simple fishermen (a blue collar group of guys lacking the sophistication of the religious elites), Mary (who was possessed by 7 spirits, so you can imagine what her lifestyle was prior to Jesus), and many others who were seen in a negative light in the religious view of the time.
I think He would keep similar company in modern times. Instead of Matthew, perhaps He would choose a gay man who became an atheist. Instead of Simon the Zealot, perhaps he would be an alt-right conservative activist. Instead of humble fishermen perhaps He would call some migrant workers from a construction site or hotel cleaning staff. Instead of Mary, perhaps a trans-woman--a non-binary trans female even. I think once we begin to try and draw parallels between the days of Jesus and our days, it can become easier to follow His example of how to treat other people. You're right, Jesus never litigated obedience. Instead, he taught by example through love and enlightenment. He liberated people from their old lives instead of enslaving them with litigious prejudice.
And those are my additional thoughts on the matter.
I love your modern day take on Jesus' disciples!! In my mind loving is as easy as live and let live. You are fine to see queer people as sinful. You are more than welcome to your belief's. My issues are when people start to force their beliefs on to me and my queer family. I think the way to support the queer community is to keep your religion in it place with you and your fellow congregants rather than trying to force it on any one. Also I think it is interesting there are several things that LDS - and Christian folks see as sinful. Why is it we are making laws about drag shows and trans people and not regulating coffee sales or making it illegal to work on the sabbath? It feels like conservative christians are pic and choosing as to what morals to impose on the rest of us.
ReplyDeleteSorry for the delayed response, I just saw your response now. I think you are exactly right, the best solution is live and let live. I am growing more and more of the opinion that it is actually a matter of freedom of religion. You have the right to worship how, what, and where you want to, even if that means that you transition to being consistent inside and out. LDS church members have the right to believe in the divinity of biological sex at birth. And neither group has the right to legislate their way of life onto the other. I don't want you making laws that say my temples must allow same sex marriages, and I do not think it is right for Christian conservatives to make laws that dictate how you raise your kids. To me, that is what freedom of religion is about.
ReplyDeleteYour other questions might be the basis for a larger conversation. For now, I can tell you from what I have heard from in the LDS church and people living here in Texas is great fear for their way of life. I know this sounds ironic and backwards because there are people making laws specifically targeted at eliminating the trans identity as well as experience. I think this may be a case of both sides feeling the same way. For LDS folks, one of the core doctrine is the divinity and importance of the nuclear, heterosexual, monogamous family unit. And biological gender plays a big role in that belief.
So, while homosexuals pose a threat to their view of the divine family unit, homosexuals at least stick with their gender assigned at birth. The trans community as a whole, though, threatens not only the family unit, but also the concept of gender. There are some people who fear that the "transgender movement" will eventually eliminate gender, homogenize society, and destroy the divine natures of women and men.
Therefore, while coffee and sabbath day observance are important things to LDS believers, they are not foundational core beliefs. That is why they will leave those things alone legally, but will pursue with great tenacity transgender folx. Yes, it is picking and choosing. We must all pick which battles we fight in life.
Having said that, it does seem like there are people overreacting a great deal in an effort to protect their way of life--whether that is trans groups dedicated to destroying any person or institute who teaches hate toward trans people, or a conservatives Christian who shoots up an LGBTQ bar. As Rodney King said back in the '90s, "Can't we all get along?" And if not, at lease live and let live.
This is Marcy not sure why it's not letting me use my account to reply. Help me understand how my existence threatens the LDS way of life? Trans people taking hormones or publishing books with trans characters does not impeded LDS folks form having traditional families and living the way the want. You don't want your kid to transition fine don't let them read books with trans characters or get hormone therapy. How does eliminating trans representation and making medical decisions for other people make the LDS way of life "safer." What it does is homogenize society and force everyone and their family to conform to LDS teachings. I really really struggle on this point. The existence of alternatives is not an existential threat. Both can exist My transness and my queer family in way impedes your traditional family and temple marriage. Leave me the F alone and go live your happy life in your corner of the world and let me live mine in my corner of the world. Neither one of us will destroy the other's existence that way.
DeleteMarcy, first off, let me clarify that I totally agree with you. Live and let live is the ideal here. I personally do not feel threatened by the existence of you or your lifestyle. In my journey of understanding, though, I do feel the need to give a voice to this other viewpoint.
DeleteAs mentioned before, the threat to our way of life is not immediate, but a possible future outcome from present actions. This perceived threat is one based on a slippery slope argument. (As a side note, here is a fascinating take on the slippery slope argument that has changed my view of it. It's done by the team at Freakonomics https://freakonomics.com/podcast/enough-with-the-slippery-slopes/). There is fear that if queers are legitimized and accepted in society, they will quickly take over public opinion and national legislation (or if not queers personally, allies and those who wish to push the "queer agenda" will). And before we know it, our faith will be required by law to allow marriages that violate our religious beliefs (read as same-sex marriages) and we will be forced to accept and live values that we disagree with. (Granted, there is some validity to this fear given the history of abuse the LDS church has received in its early days. We are all reminded of that trauma as we celebrate our pioneer heritage, so of course we will be afraid of living that kind of life again.)
Personally, I find this fear ironic in light of the rulings of the current Supreme Court that are disregard half a century of precedence and reversing laws they disagree with simply on ideological grounds.
I have also realized more recently the great difference in basic assumptions between the two sides of this argument. Many ultra conservatives do not believe that gender dysphoria or being born in the "wrong body" is even real. The trans community is just making this up to get attention or push their agenda. No man really feels like he should be a woman, and vice versa. So, they will not work with the LGBTQ community because to do so would be to legitimize the great Lie. And yes, here pops up another popular slippery slope argument. If it's a lie and people are only trans if they want to be, then as "trans values" become more main stream, there will be a greater chance their children are going to decide to jump over to the "trans side" of the force, and that is not okay. This argument actually makes me think of a line from a book by an LDS mom whose son came out as gay. While describing how she handled her beliefs and her son, she pointed out that we tell our kids we love them unconditionally, then when they come to us and say I'm gay (or I'm trans) we throw them out of the house and never talk to them again. So, then our love really is not unconditional. We love and support our kids even when they make decisions we may not agree with, and that is fulfilling our promise that our love is unconditional.
Anyway, I haven't done a great job presenting another point of view here. And, judging by your comments in our discussions, I think you probably do understand the other view point, and you are able to see its flaws as well. And that is why I still hold that "Live and Let Live" is the best solution. We don't have to agree, but we also don't need to irradicate one another--either legally, psychologically, physically, or any other way.